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Date: 2002-02-23 08:38 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2002-02-23 10:38 am (UTC)ß öåíþ ñâîáîäó è íå ëþáëþ, êîãäà íà íåå ïîêóøàþòñÿ. Ìíå íåíàâèñòíû ìàññîâûå óáèéñòâà è ãåíîöèäû. Äëÿ ìåíÿ íåïðèåìëåìà ñèòóàöèÿ, êîãäà ïåðå÷èñëåííûìè âåùàìè çàíèìàåòñÿ ïðàâèòåëüñòâî ìîåé ñòðàíû.
 ïðèçíàíèè íåçàâèñèìîñòè ×å÷íè ÿ âèæó ñàìóþ íàäåæíóþ ïðàêòè÷åñêóþ ãàðàíòèþ òîãî, ÷òî ðîññèéñêîå ãîñóäàðñòâî è åãî àðìèÿ ïåðåñòàíóò óãðîæàòü ñâîáîäàì è áåçîïàñíîñòè ìåñòíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ. Ñòðåìëåíèå ÷å÷åíöåâ ê íåçàâèñèìîñòè î÷åâèäíî, è íèêàêîãî ïðàâà ñèëîé èõ óäåðæèâàòü ó ðîññèéñêèõ âëàñòåé íåò.
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Date: 2002-02-23 12:51 pm (UTC)Åñëè æå Âû îòäà¸òå ñåáå òàêîé îò÷¸ò, òî ÿ áû õîòåë ñïðîñèòü Âàñ - íà êàêèõ îñíîâàíèÿõ Âû ïîëàãàåòå, ÷òî ïîëüçà îò ïðèçíàíèÿ íåçàâèñèìîñòè ×å÷íè áóäåò çàâåäîìî áîëüøå òîãî âðåäà, êîòîðûé íåèçáåæíî áóäåò ñ íèì ñâÿçàí? Êàêèìè ñîîáðàæåíèÿìè Âû ðóêîâîäñòâîâàëèñü, âçâåøèâàÿ "çà" è ïðîòèâ"?
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Date: 2002-02-24 11:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-02-24 12:34 pm (UTC)Ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê íàöèîíàëüíî-îñâîáîäèòåëüíûì äâèæåíèÿì ìû èìååì ñòàíäàðòíóþ ñèòóàöèþ, êîãäà ïðàâèòåëü èìïåðñêèé íàçûâàåò "áàíäèòîì" ïîòåíöèàëüíîãî ïðàâèòåëÿ ìåñòíîãî, íàöèîíàëüíîãî. Ðàçíèöà ìåæäó ïåðâûì è âòîðûì èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â òîì, ÷òî âòîðîé ïîëüçóåòñÿ ïîääåðæêîé ìåñòíîãî íàñåëåíèÿ, à ïåðâûé åå äàâíî óòðàòèë, èëè âîâñå íèêîãäà íå èìåë. Íàâåðíîå, ïî÷òè âñå ñîâðåìåííûå ãîñóäàðñòâà ïðîèçîøëè îò òàêèõ "áàíäèòîâ".
Áàíäèòû-òåððîðèñòû Áåãèí ñ Áåí Ãóðèîíîì âçîðâàëè îòåëü, ïîëíûé ãðàæäàíñêèõ ëèö âñåõ íàöèîíàëüíîñòåé -- è ñîçäàëñÿ Èçðàèëü.  ïðîìåæóòêàõ ìåæäó ñîâìåñòíîé îðãàíèçàöèåé áàíäèòñêèõ íàïàäåíèé îíè åùå ïðîáàâëÿëèñü òåì, ÷òî âûäàâàëè äðóã äðóãà çàêîííûì âëàñòÿì, à êîãäà, íàêîíåö, âûíóäèëè àíãëè÷àí ïîêèíóòü ñòðàíó, ïðèíÿëèñü ïàëèòü äðóã â äðóãà èç ïóøêè -- íó ÷èñòî áàíäèòû! Áàíäèò-èçìåííèê Äæåôôåðñîí íàïèñàë ñâîþ, ñ ïîçâîëåíèÿ ñêàçàòü, "äåêëàðàöèþ íåçàâèñèìîñòè" -- è âîçíèêëà Àìåðèêà. Áàíäèòñòâóþùèå êíÿçüÿ âûøëè èç ïîâèíîâåíèÿ çàêîííûõ âëàñòåé Îðäû -- ïîÿâèëàñü öàðñêàÿ Ðîññèÿ. Äðóãèå áàíäèòû ñâåðãëè íàñëåäíèêîâ ïåðâûõ -- ñîçäàëè ÑÑÑÐ; òðåòüè áàíäèòû-ïðåäàòåëè (àãåíòû âëèÿíèÿ) ñíåñëè çàêîííóþ âëàñòü âòîðûõ -- óñòðîèëè Ðîññèþ íûíåøíþþ.
Âñå îñòàëüíîå â Âàøåì ïîñòèíãå íåâåðíî. Êàê îáðàùàëèñü ñ ÷å÷åíñêèì íàðîäîì áàíäèòû ìîñêîâñêèå -- ñì. çàãîëîâîê ìîåé çàïèñè, ê êîòîðîé çäåñü êîììåíòû ïèøóò. Õóæå ýòîãî íèêàêîé ìåñòíûé íà÷àëüíèê òàì íè÷åãî íå ñäåëàåò -- ñì. î÷åíü ìèðíóþ (ñðàâíèòåëüíî) èñòîðèþ íåçàâèñèìîé ×å÷íè ïðè Äóäàåâå è Ìàñõàäîâå, â ïðîìåæóòêàõ ìåæäó ðóññêèìè âòîðæåíèÿìè. Íàðîä ÷å÷åíñêèé íå òî ÷òî íå áåçìîëâñòâóåò, ãîëîñ åãî ñëûøåí âî âñåì ìèðå -- ïîâñþäó, ãäå èçðåäêà âêëþ÷àþò òåëåâèçîð èëè çàãëÿäûâàþò â ãàçåòû ñ íîâîñòÿìè èç çîíû áîåâûõ äåéñòâèé. À áåãóò îòòóäà ëþäè ïîòîìó, ÷òî èõ ñòðàíó ðàçðóøèëà è ïðîäîëæàåò ðàçðóøàòü "ðîññèéñêàÿ àðìèÿ" (âñÿêî îïàñíåéøåå áàíäôîðìèðîâàíèå â îêðóãå). Ñëîâî "çà÷èñòêà" Âû, ÿ íàäåþñü, ñëûøàëè?
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Date: 2002-02-24 12:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-02-24 02:02 pm (UTC)Ïðè ÷åì çäåñü Îáîãóåâ?
Date: 2002-02-24 02:12 pm (UTC)Re: Ïðè ÷åì çäåñü Îáîãóåâ?
Date: 2002-02-24 02:25 pm (UTC)Âîò î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî, à êòî æå ÿ??
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Date: 2002-02-23 10:18 am (UTC)Äðóãîå ìåñòî, ãäå ìîæíî ïîñòàâèòü ïîäïèñü: ñàéò "Ýòî íå ìîÿ âîéíà", http://www.notmywar.ru . Ïîñìîòðèòå òàêæå ïðàâîçàùèòíûé ñàéò http://www.hro.org/war/anti/index.htm .
Ïðîøëîé âåñíîé ïîÿâèëàñü ïåòèöèÿ êîìèòåòà "Çà ïðåêðàùåíèå âîéíû è óñòàíîâëåíèå ìèðà"; íî, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ÿ íå çíàþ, ìîæíî ëè ïîäïèñàòüñÿ ïîä íåé ñåé÷àñ (è êàê). ß íàøåë åå íà ñåòè çäåñü, ñì. òàêæå òóò.
ÐÏ/ÀÐÀ ïðåäëàãàþò ïîñëàòü îòêðûòêó ïðåçèäåíòó Ïóòèíó ñ ïðèçûâîì ïðåêðàòèòü áîåâûå äåéñòâèÿ è íà÷àòü ïåðåãîâîðû î âûâîäå âîéñê.
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Date: 2002-02-23 10:32 am (UTC)Íàñ÷åò äåÿòåëåé - Ïåòÿ Ðàóø òî÷íî íå èç ÐÏ, ÿ ïðîñòî çàáûëà, ÷òî Âû íå ïèòåðñêèé, ýòî òàêàÿ ìåñòíàÿ äîñòîïðèìå÷àòåëüíîñòü. Äîëãî îáúÿñíÿòü. À Äåáðÿíñêàÿ, òî÷íî, èìåííî â ýòîé ïàðòèè ñîñòîÿëà, íî òî áûëî â íà÷àëå 90-õ, òàê ÷òî ìîæåò óæå è íåò. Ñ åå ïîäà÷è ÿ ïîïàëà â ñïèñîê ðàññûëêè è ïàðó ëåò ïîäðÿä ïîëó÷àëà èõ áþëëþòåíü; âïå÷àòëåíèå îñòàëîñü ñêåïòè÷åñêîå, èçâèíèòå.
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Date: 2004-08-10 01:05 pm (UTC)(from 128.95.101.187)
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