Шломо Авинери в Jerusalem Post
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[...] never before have Israel's citizens been as terrorized and frightened as they are today. I realize neither Sharon nor Peres can, for obvious reasons, freely stroll down Jaffa Road in Jerusalem. But if they would, they might have been shocked by what they would see. No country can live with its citizens fearful of walking down the main street of its capital city. This is what is happening today in Jerusalem - and all over the country.
Неужели это правда? В остальном текст удивительно разумный:
With the ever-diminishing chances for meaningful negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, unilateral disengagement appears more and more as the only way out of the present morass. Its relevance is also underpinned by two kinds of imperatives which usually do not go hand in hand - the security imperative and moral imperative.
The security imperative is clear [...] Israel is the only country in the world that has no control over its border, because it decided not to decide were this border should be. I realize it is a tough decision, but let us recall that every person killed [...] by a suicide bomber coming from the West Bank has been killed because we could not make up our mind where the border is.
The moral imperative is similarly clear: under the present circumstances, occupation still continues in one guise or another. We impose closures, road blocks, curfews [...] continuation of the occupation fuels resistance and enmity towards Israel [...] Occupation also corrupts Israeli society, has demoralizing effects on the army and will continue to corrode the democratic core of the country's institutions and public discourse.
The details are obviously difficult and complex, but one has to realize that brute force is not an answer - and, on the other side, the Palestinians are not ready for a historic compromise. Israel is left alone: we, Israel's citizens, will have to come up with an answer [...] Only a combination of hard-headed realism with an understanding of the grave moral dangers to the country from the continuation of the present unwinnable war can provide an answer.
[...] never before have Israel's citizens been as terrorized and frightened as they are today. I realize neither Sharon nor Peres can, for obvious reasons, freely stroll down Jaffa Road in Jerusalem. But if they would, they might have been shocked by what they would see. No country can live with its citizens fearful of walking down the main street of its capital city. This is what is happening today in Jerusalem - and all over the country.
Неужели это правда? В остальном текст удивительно разумный:
With the ever-diminishing chances for meaningful negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, unilateral disengagement appears more and more as the only way out of the present morass. Its relevance is also underpinned by two kinds of imperatives which usually do not go hand in hand - the security imperative and moral imperative.
The security imperative is clear [...] Israel is the only country in the world that has no control over its border, because it decided not to decide were this border should be. I realize it is a tough decision, but let us recall that every person killed [...] by a suicide bomber coming from the West Bank has been killed because we could not make up our mind where the border is.
The moral imperative is similarly clear: under the present circumstances, occupation still continues in one guise or another. We impose closures, road blocks, curfews [...] continuation of the occupation fuels resistance and enmity towards Israel [...] Occupation also corrupts Israeli society, has demoralizing effects on the army and will continue to corrode the democratic core of the country's institutions and public discourse.
The details are obviously difficult and complex, but one has to realize that brute force is not an answer - and, on the other side, the Palestinians are not ready for a historic compromise. Israel is left alone: we, Israel's citizens, will have to come up with an answer [...] Only a combination of hard-headed realism with an understanding of the grave moral dangers to the country from the continuation of the present unwinnable war can provide an answer.
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Re: Îíî î÷åíü ëåâîå, ýòî ðàññóæäåíèå....
Date: 2002-02-14 02:59 pm (UTC)ß áû ïîøåë äàëüøå è ñêàçàë, ÷òî êàê òîëüêî èçðàèëüòÿíå ïåðåñòàíóò îãðàíè÷èâàòü ñâîáîäû æèòåëåé òåððèòîðèé, êîíòðîëèðîâàòü äâèæåíèå ÷åðåç âíåøíèå ãðàíèöû è ò.ä., îíè ñìîãóò ñíÿòü ñ ñåáÿ îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà èõ âûæèâàíèå â ýêîíîìè÷åñêîì ñìûñëå. Ìîæíî áóäåò ïðîñòî ïðåêðàòèòü âïóñêàòü èõ íà ðàáîòó â Èçðàèëü -- íå âðåìåííî, à íàâñåãäà, áåçóñëîâíî è îäíîçíà÷íî.
Ýòî ïîñòàâèò æèòåëåé òåððèòîðèé ïåðåä íåîáõîäèìîñòüþ ëèáî ïîñòðîèòü ñîáñòâåííóþ îòíîñèòåëüíî íåçàâèñèìóþ ýêîíîìèêó, ïðîìûøëåííîñòü, ëèáî ðàçúåõàòüñÿ ïî äðóãèì ñòðàíàì, êîòîðûå ñîãëàñÿòñÿ èõ âïóñòèòü.  ïåðâîì ñëó÷àå ñèëà èõ çàâèñòè ê èçðàèëüòÿíàì óìåíüøèòñÿ, âî âòîðîì ñëó÷àå ðàññòîÿíèå îò íèõ äî Èçðàèëÿ óâåëè÷èòñÿ...
Re: Îíî î÷åíü ëåâîå, ýòî ðàññóæäåíèå....
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Date: 2002-02-14 03:44 pm (UTC)À òî ÷òî òàì âîçìîæíî ìû ñìîæåì ãðàíèöû ëó÷øå îõðàíÿòü (ãîâîðÿò ïðàâûå) ýòî åù¸ áàáóøêà íàäâîå ñêàçàëà.  êîíöå êîíöîâ, áûëè æå òåðàêòû â Èçðàèëå è äî 67-ãî. Ò.å. îïÿòü-òàêè ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî ìû îòäàåì ìíîãî íè çà ÷òî.
Òàê ÷òî ïðàâûå íà ýòî íå ñîãëàñÿòñÿ.
Ëåâûå ìíîãèå ê ýòîìó ðåøåíèþ ñêëîíÿþòñÿ, íî îíî äàëåêî íå òàê ïîïóëÿðíî, êàê ìîæåò ïîêàçàòüñÿ â ñâÿçè ñ øóìîì âîêðóã íå íåãî.
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Date: 2002-02-15 08:57 am (UTC)Re: Îíî î÷åíü ëåâîå, ýòî ðàññóæäåíèå....
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