Date: 2018-03-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com
He made a mistake - he apologized. This is exactly what they wanted, and getting him to admit his "guilt" and to apologize was the only goal of the campaign against him. Historically, people in a similar situation (a committed thought-crime) who did not apologize suffered no consequences for what they said; people who did apologize, on the other hand, usually suffered significant negative consequences.

Date: 2018-03-23 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] posic.livejournal.com
Really? Who are those people who refused to apologize and suffered no consequences?

I would certainly refuse to apologize in such a situation, but I would also expect the consequences to be quite severe.

Date: 2018-03-24 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com
There are several prominent examples of people who were attacked for politically incorrect speech, refused to apologize, and did not suffer drastic consequences, unlike people who did apologize - including some Nobel Prize winners - and were fired from all positions. I read about this. The most recent example is Prof. Jordan Peterson. Consequences are certainly likely to be more severe if you apologize and admit your "guilt" in this kind of situation.

Date: 2018-03-24 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] passerby-fl.livejournal.com
Why start a fight if you are going to surrender after the first blow?

Date: 2018-03-24 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] posic.livejournal.com
It seems that all those high-profile PC victims are naive people who do not realize what they are doing by saying those things and what the expected consequences may be. That's why they are so vulnerable and tend to suffer so much without achieving much of anything.

Date: 2018-03-24 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] passerby-fl.livejournal.com
The professor doesn't strike me as a naive person. His reply to the fundraiser email betrays a sarcastic man. Naivete and sarcasm don't usually go hand in hand.

Date: 2018-03-24 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] posic.livejournal.com
Why not? From reading the article under the link, the impression is that this professor had a habit of telling politically incorrect sarcastic jokes in audiences that (for whatever reason) tended to be sympathetic to his views. He got an e-mail from that Society of Black Engineers and replied in a similarly sarcastic fashion, without realizing that those Black Engineers are not his usual audience. He did not know what the academic world was like outside of his usual circle of interaction, that's what his naivete consists in.

Date: 2018-03-24 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com
About the tactics of "social justice warriors" (SJWs):

“Take all statements by an SJWs about himself as diametrically opposite the truth, and
all accusations flung at others to be tacit confessions about himself, their odd and
neurotic speech patterns, hypocrisies, and insolent self contradictions fit into a clear
pattern, and can be understood.”
—John C. Wright

Cited from: Vox Day, "SJWs always double down" (2017)

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Sir Tim Hunt apologized for his remarks almost immediately. So did James Watson. So did Brandon Eich. But SJWs don't seek apologies for the same reason normal people do. They don't demand apologies in order to see that the individual who has offended them admits that he has committed an offense, regrets having done so, and will seek to avoid doing so again in the future.
The reason SJWs demand apologies is in order to establish that the act they have deemed an offense is publicly recognized as an offense by the offender. The demand for an apology has nothing whatsoever to do with the offender. It is focused on the SJW's need to prove that the violation of the Narrative involved is publicly accepted as a real and legitimate offense for which punishment is merited. And once the apology is duly delivered by the accused, who is usually bewildered at the accusation and in a state of shock at the unexpected social pressure he faces, it is promptly rejected because it is not the action, but the actor, that is the real target.
Keep in mind that it is not in the interests of the SJWs to accept the apology anyhow, because if the action that violated the Narrative can be forgiven, that will limit its utility to use against others who reject the Narrative in the future. What use is it to go through the whole process of publicly crucifying a Nobel Prize winner if you're only going to let him off the cross when he says he is sorry? After all, Voltaire didn't observe that the Royal Navy found it necessary to criticize an admiral from time to time to encourage the others, he observed that the British found it necessary to kill one.
The ultimate purpose of an SJW attack is not to destroy the individual attacked, but rather to make an example of him that will dissuade others from violating the SJW Narrative in a similar fashion. And that is why it is absolutely and utterly futile for the target of an SJW attack to apologize for whatever offense he is said to have caused.

Consider the sequence of events in three of the most significant SJW lynchings in recent years. In each case, the sequence is the same.

1. SJWs attack a statement or action by the target.
2. The target apologizes in the hope of resolving the situation.
3. The apology is deemed to be insufficient or irrelevant in some way, and the social pressure actually increases.
4. The target is destroyed.

Date: 2018-03-24 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com

...

Now that you know an SJW attack will probably come as a surprise, you need to know what to do when it comes. And just as there are eight stages to an SJW attack, there are eight things you must keep in mind when responding to one.

1. Rely on the Three Rs: RECOGNIZE it is happening. REMAIN calm. REALIZE no one cares.
...
2. Don't try to reason with them.
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3. Do not apologize.

The third thing to remember when undergoing an SJW-attack is to never apologize for anything you have done. I repeat: do not apologize. Do not say you are sorry if anyone's feelings were hurt, do not express regret, remorse, or contrition, do not say anything that can be taken as an apology in any way. Just in case I am not being sufficiently clear, do not apologize!
Normal people seek apologies because they want to know that you feel bad about what you have done and that you will at least attempt to avoid doing it again in the future. They seek apologies within the context of an expectation of a better future relationship with you. This is why it is important to apologize to normal people you have harmed in some way, so that you can mutually repair the damaged relationship through the bonding process of repentance and forgiveness. When we sincerely apologize to those we have inadvertently offended, this process actually strengthens the relationship and often leads to improved mutual understanding.
None of that applies to SJWs. They don't care how you feel, they don't care about your future behavior, they don't expect to have a future relationship with you, and there is absolutely no chance they are going to forgive you for anything. You are, after all, a dangerous thought-criminal. When they push you for an apology after pointing-and-shrieking at you, what they are seeking is a confession to bolster their indictment. They are like the police down at the station with a suspect in the interrogation room, badgering him to confess to the crime. And like all too many police these days, the SJWs don't really care if you did it or not, they're just looking for a confession that they can take to the prosecutor.
This means that every apology, every compromise, and every attempt to find common ground will be viewed as a display of weakness, a lack of confidence, and damning evidence in the case concerning which they intend to prosecute you.
Therefore, the correct answer to a demand for an apology is always no. “Wouldn't it only make sense if....” No. “Can't we just....” No. “Wouldn't it be fair to....” No. “You have to admit....” No. “If you would just apologize....” No. “Don't you realize you hurt....” No.
It is very educational to see what happens when one simply refuses to fall in line with their demands. A refusal to play along with their game quickly strips the mask of sanity from their faces and reveals the angry, shrieking madness underneath. Never forget that they have no certainty of a win without your compliance. So do not, under any circumstances, comply with any of their demands. Do not, under any circumstances, apologize, not even if you feel genuinely bad about what you have done or if you suspect you may have genuinely hurt someone's feelings.
Remember, they don't believe in forgiveness. They don't believe in repentance. All they are looking for is for you to condemn yourself so the show trial can begin. As one SJW has put it: “Apologies are not merely the end of a bad situation. They are the beginning of a promise to do (and be) better.” So don't be under the false impression that an apology will put an end to anything. It will only serve as the start of the next stage of their attack.
Be aware that once they have launched an attack on you, they will press you hard for an apology and repeatedly imply that if you will just apologize, all will be forgiven. Do not be fooled! I have seen people fall for it time and time again, and the result is always the same. The SJWs are simply looking for a public confession that will confirm their accusations, give them PR cover, and provide them with the ammunition required to discredit and disemploy you. Apologizing will accomplish nothing more than hand them the very weapons they require to destroy you.
Edited Date: 2018-03-24 07:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-03-24 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com

4. Accept your fate.
5. Document their every word and action
6. Do not resign!

Do not resign! You must always keep in mind that their real goal is not to formally purge you, but to encourage you to quit on your own. That allows them to publicly wash their hands of the affair and claim that your decision to leave was not their fault. They will often enlist more reasonable allies to approach you and tell you that it's not possible for you to continue any more, they will appeal to your desire to avoid conflict as well as to the good of the organization, and they will go on endlessly about the supreme importance of an amicable departure. Don't fall for it. Don't do their dirty work for them. Make them take the full responsibility for throwing you out, thereby ensuring they have to suffer the unpredictable long-term consequences of their actions.
No matter how deeply the deck is stacked against you, the outcome will always be in doubt unless you resign.

While some people are under the impression that an inexplicable resignation will look better on their resume than being fired for cause, the fact is that it is much easier to find a job if you already have one. Not only that, but in many cases, the end result of the process is the choice between a forced resignation and an outright firing, so forcing the SJWs to go through the entire process is going to leave the average individual targeted by them materially better off than if he takes the bait and voluntarily retires when first pressured to do so.

There are no hard statistics available on this, but I would estimate that about one-half to two-thirds of the individuals who resign under pressure from SJWs would not have actually been forced to leave the corporation, institution, or organization if they had simply stood their ground, refused to apologize, and refused to resign. One of the main reasons they put so much pressure on people so early in their attack process is because they know they have a better chance of winning through psychological intimidation than they do through any legally valid process. The legal requirements of due process tend to stand directly in the way of the SJW desire for secrecy, their need to avoid documentation, and their preference for rapid purges that are completed before anyone else even realizes they are taking place.

7. Make the rubble bounce.

Whether you survive the attempted purge or whether you don't, it's very important to observe who has defined himself as an ally, an enemy, or a neutral party during the process. The choices people make will pleasantly surprise you about as often as they disappoint you. Once everyone's choices have been made clear, your task is simple. Target the enemy at every opportunity. Hit them wherever they show themselves vulnerable. Play as dirty as your conscience will permit. Undermine them, sabotage them, and discredit them. Be ruthless and show them absolutely no mercy. This is not the time for Christian forgiveness because these are people who have not repented, these are people who are trying to destroy you and are quite willing to harm your family and your children in the process. Take them down and take them out without hesitation.

8. Start nothing, finish everything.

Cited from: Vox Day. SJWs always lie (2015)
Edited Date: 2018-03-24 07:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] posic.livejournal.com
Thanks! That's great. As they say, to have an education means to have an idea of the amount of technical literature you are not familiar with. By offering these citations, you have made me a better educated man than I was before. The same may apply to many readers of this blog.

Date: 2018-03-24 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaource.livejournal.com
Happy to share.... Reading these books was very educational and eye-opening for me as well.
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