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I don't think that the Oslo etc. accords can be properly considered a binding contract. Rather, I would view them as a declaration of intent.
Nevertheless, a declaration of intent which apparently wasn't in fact there and which in any event never materialized at all is no ground for a Nobel peace prize.
So it makes sense that the prize should be revoked now.
I don't think that the Oslo etc. accords can be properly considered a binding contract. Rather, I would view them as a declaration of intent.
Nevertheless, a declaration of intent which apparently wasn't in fact there and which in any event never materialized at all is no ground for a Nobel peace prize.
So it makes sense that the prize should be revoked now.
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à ÷òî,
Date: 2001-12-16 10:23 am (UTC)(ïî ìíå, òàê íåôèãà îòíèìàòü. "ïðåìèÿ ìèðà" -- âåùü, çàñëóæèâàþùàÿ äèñêðåäèòàöèè. ïóñòü íàø ùåòèíèñòûé äðóã íà ýòè äåíüãè ñáåãàåò îáðàòíî â Òóíèñ, äà).
Re: à ÷òî,
Date: 2001-12-16 11:04 am (UTC)À ïî÷åìó èäåÿ "ïðåìèè ìèðà" ÿêîáû çàñëóæèâàåò äèñêðåäèòàöèè? ×òî â íåé ïëîõîãî? Ýòà âåäü øòóêà íèêîãî íè ê ÷åìó íå îáÿçûâàþùàÿ, ïî ñóòè ÷àñòíàÿ. Êàê ê ýòèì ïðåìèÿì îòíîñèòüñÿ, êàæäûé ðåøàåò äëÿ ñåáÿ ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî. Íèêòî íèêîìó íå ìåøàåò ñîçäàòü äðóãóþ ïîäîáíóþ ïðåìèþ ñ äðóãèì, ëó÷øèì êîìèòåòîì, äðóãèìè ïðàâèëàìè è ò.ä.
ß ïîìíþ, êîãäà-òî ìåíÿ âåñåëèëà è âîçìóùàëà îòìåíà ðåçîëþöèè ÎÎÍ î ñèîíèçìå êàê ôîðìå ðàñèçìà. Òîãäà ÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî ãîâîðèë è ñåé÷àñ ñêàæó, ÷òî ÎÎÍ (è êîíðåòíîå âîïëîùåíèå, è ñàìà èäåÿ) âðåäíà, íå íóæíà, çàñëóæèâàåò äèñêðåäèòàöèè. È ëó÷øåé äèñêðåäèòàöèåé åé áûëà (è îñòàåòñÿ) òà ðåçîëþöèÿ.
Íî íîáåëåâñêèé êîìèòåò -- íå ÎÎÍ. Îí íèêîìó ñåáÿ íå íàâÿçûâàåò, íè íà êàêóþ âëàñòü íå ïðåòåíäóåò. Âûñêàçûâàåò ñâîå ìíåíèå. Ïî÷åìó áû è íåò?
Re:
Date: 2001-12-16 11:35 am (UTC)ýòî-òî êîíå÷íî. è óçíàâàòü ÷òî åñòü òàêîé ñàéò ñ îïðîñîì, è äîâåðÿòü ðåçóëüòàòàì äàííîãî îïðîñà, è ïðèíèìàòü ýòè ðåçóëüòàòû ê ñâåäåíèþ -- ýòî òîæå èõ ïðîáëåìà, äà.
> Íî íîáåëåâñêèé êîìèòåò -- íå ÎÎÍ. Îí íèêîìó ñåáÿ íå íàâÿçûâàåò, íè íà êàêóþ âëàñòü íå ïðåòåíäóåò. Âûñêàçûâàåò ñâîå ìíåíèå. Ïî÷åìó áû è íåò?
ïîòîìó ÷òî àâòîðèòåò êàêîé-òî èìååò. credibility. èëè èìåë.
Ïóñòîé øóì
Date: 2001-12-16 11:30 am (UTC)